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Genneva黄金投资公司被取缔 100公斤金条查封

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发表于 2012-10-6 04:29 | 显示全部楼层
是的,2000年底时用156千从高庭tender回来的,地大5000多方尺,永久地契,现在市价也才400多千而已。
heamq 发表于 2012-10-5 20:39


屋子的build-up是多少sq.ft.呢?看起来很好。

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发表于 2012-10-6 06:04 | 显示全部楼层
屋子的build-up是多少sq.ft.呢?看起来很好。
BBJ1168 发表于 2012-10-6 04:29


屋身是24尺乘47尺,约1950方尺,
地形是约38尺乘147,屋前长40尺,屋身长47尺,屋后60尺。

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发表于 2012-10-6 08:09 | 显示全部楼层
其實
琢磨需要去自殺呢
最多破產罷了嘛
這樣的都抵抗不下去嗎?

破產需要坐監獄 ...
lawhal83 发表于 2012-10-6 00:40

如果你路已经走到大半了,但钱一夕间全没了,你会不会想:都几十岁人了,过惯锦衣玉食的日子,现在要打回形,洗碗赚零用,还整天被老婆唠叨,不如死了算了

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发表于 2012-10-6 08:37 | 显示全部楼层
難不成大家以為pb的黃金存款
他們真的拿了錢,
去幫顧客買了金條幫收住嗎
lawhal83 发表于 2012-10-5 14:51

应该有对冲,买黄金etf,赚手术费
dragonfoo 发表于 2012-10-5 15:05


我也相信BANK买。


其实这次很多马来人有中,
我马来朋友的某某黄金公司更夸张,
每个月回酬有13%,对13%。
一些聪明的跟bank pertanian借personal loan, ~4%(给地球王子而已)。

除了这些,
那些养羊,蚯蚓,种蘑菇等之类,
都是专骗kampung马来仔的,
统统都说有某某dato啦。。。
君不见现在连乡村人都那么恨污桶。

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发表于 2012-10-6 08:41 | 显示全部楼层
bank 也不能100%相信的啊, 最终目的还不是要你的钱

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发表于 2012-10-6 10:18 | 显示全部楼层
bank 也不能100%相信的啊, 最终目的还不是要你的钱
kihoshi 发表于 6-10-2012 08:41



    不是不能
沒得好選
要好好選咯

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-6 12:28 | 显示全部楼层
总结,做人脚踏实地之余,还要小心。

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发表于 2012-10-6 14:13 | 显示全部楼层
代理還是那麼擁護公司

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发表于 2012-10-6 14:26 | 显示全部楼层
回复 129# ahlooi1030


    因为不挺的话,连渣都没有。他们的下线全部回来怪他们。

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发表于 2012-10-6 14:46 | 显示全部楼层
回复 130# ljkeat

嗯,都為他們自己回本再算

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-6 18:51 | 显示全部楼层
其实,国家银行采取行动前,一定质询过法律顾问了。不然被 Genneva Shoot 回不是够力。
所以啊,Genneva 是凶多吉少了。

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发表于 2012-10-6 19:26 | 显示全部楼层
回复 121# 敦肃

没问题!!!

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发表于 2012-10-6 23:57 | 显示全部楼层
来源:东方日报

专家:黄金投资不能称骗案

×只是一种经过包装的销售手法。
×购买较市价为高的黄金,赚取其中的回佣,只能说是一种商业的手段,一种促销的手法。
×如果黄金一旦跌价,那稀薄的回佣根本不足以应付,那么这投资就会完了


(吉隆坡4日讯)理財专家黄凯顺表示,Genneva黄金投资公司这种配套,不能称之为骗案,只是一种经过包装的销售手法。

同时,若仔细分析,买家若以高价购买黄金的那一刻起,已是一种亏本的投资。

理財专家黄凯顺今日受《东方日报》电话访问时表示,Genneva黄金投资公司一案,严格来说不能称为骗案。

他们有合约且公开交易,人们也是在清楚合约內容和你情我愿的情况下,购买较市价为高的黄金,赚取其中的回佣,只能说是一种商业的手段,一种促销的手法。

黄凯顺表示,如今很多人的心態都不正確。他曾到各地开讲座,教导人们如何理財。可是很多人都对学习理財没有任何兴趣,只希望他可以直接一个让自己不用烦心,又可以赚大钱的方案。

「有一句名言是这么说的:『如果你自己不知道如何控制你的钱財,只有人为你代劳。』,不少商家就是清楚了解这一点,就创造了各种各样的配套和方案,迎合大眾。而大眾看到不用烦心又可以赚钱,自然是一拍即合。」

黄凯顺也表示,如果仔细分析这类黄金买卖公司,买家向公司购买比市价更高的黄金的那一刻起,已经是亏本的投资。

「该投资配套都建立在黄金的价格在上涨的基础上,如果黄金一旦跌价,那稀薄的回佣根本不足以应付,那么这投资就会完了。」

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发表于 2012-10-7 09:17 | 显示全部楼层
Saturday October 6, 2012
A thorough, swift probe of Genneva Malaysia should end the debate
OPTIMISTICALLY CAUTIOUS
By ERROL OH
errol@thestar.com.my
IT'S agonisingly hard to be a regulator at times. When there's enforcement action, complaints of heavy-handedness and unfairness are almost inevitable. However, if things go wrong and people suffer losses because somebody hasn't played by the rules, there will be this automatic question: “Why didn't the authorities prevent this?”

The Genneva Malaysia case is an unusual example of a regulator's dilemma because a business being investigated by several government bodies has many stakeholders who would be a lot happier had there been no such intervention.

Maybe dilemma isn't the right word. There was no sign of ambivalence when the police, Bank Negara, the Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry and the Companies Commission of Malaysia carried out joint raids on Monday on several premises of Genneva Malaysia Sdn Bhd and on the homes of its directors.

A multi-agency strike like this is both rare and impressive. It's impossible to miss the point that the Government is putting in a lot of resources in acting on the suspicion that Genneva Malaysia has broken the law.

That strategy has since widened in scope. Yesterday, the police, Bank Negara and the Ministry of Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism conducted joint raids on three other companies Pageantry Gold Bhd, Caesar Gold Sdn Bhd and Worldwide Far East Bhd.

Like Genneva Malaysia, the trio are classified as gold investment companies on Bank Negara's Financial Consumer Alert list, which identifies companies and websites that are “neither authorised nor approved under the relevant laws and regulations administered by Bank Negara”.

On its website, Genneva Malaysia describes itself as “the leading gold bullion trader in Malaysia” and claims to have more than 50,000 customers and 6,000 consultants in the country.

These customers and consultants are a frustrated and worried lot since the raids on Monday. They are convinced that the company isn't doing anything illegal. They would have been far less upset if Genneva Malaysia's operations had not been halted.

It didn't help that the authorities were initially unspecific about the reasons for the raids. In a press statement on Monday, Bank Negara said these were for “suspected offences under the laws administered by the respective enforcement agencies”.

It was only four days later that the central bank offered more details of the suspected offences. These include illegal deposit taking, money laundering, tax evasion and avoidance, false description (including misrepresentations), appointment of agents without licence and failure to lodge statutory documents.

“Relevant assets and documents of the companies seized from the raid will be preserved for the purpose of facilitating the investigations. The relevant enforcement agencies have mobilised the necessary resources to expedite the investigations,” added the central bank in a statement on Friday.

This addresses the customers' concerns that their gold and money held by Genneva Malaysia will be frozen for an unduly long time while the investigations are pending.

But there's still the perception among the customers and consultants that the authorities were wrong to suspect Genneva Malaysia in the first place, and that the raids may have ruined a good business and the healthy returns the customers had been enjoying.

Supporters of Genneva Malaysia praise the company's business model and deny that it's a Ponzi scheme or a get-rich-quick scheme. Some go as far as to say the company deserves recognition for its innovativeness and for its ability to expand abroad.

There are also suggestions that the probe is the result of other financial industry players feeling threatened by the success of Genneva Malaysia.

The letters-to-the-editor page of The Star yesterday carried several examples of such thinking. Says a customer who goes by the name Kim Meng: “Genneva Malaysia's business is the new age business model. And what started as a Buatan Malaysia five years ago has since grown into one of the leading gold bullion traders across Asia with businesses in Singapore, the Philippines, Hong Kong and China (where Genneva has a 30-year operating licence in Beijing).

“Anything new takes time to understand and lots of resistance to change, especially when there are incumbents whose business will be affected by such change and new models.”

Another person known as Flower Rose, in response to a previously published letter that welcomed the raids, wrote: “Please get your facts right before saying anything. You have upset many customers that see Genneva Malaysia as a platform that is holistic and sincere in providing the rakyat with a legal and steady cash flow that even helps to boost the country's economy with the extra disposable income.”

The schism over Genneva Malaysia is strange because the enforcement agencies, according to Bank Negara, have acted to protect the interest of investors and the public. Can the regulators and the very people they want to help, be so far apart in what they believe?

It's a situation that demands patience and calm. The most important thing now is that the investigations are thorough yet speedy.

The Genneva Malaysia consultants and customers should have no problem understanding this. After all, if they're right about the superiority and legitimacy of the company's business model, all will not be lost. There will be no charges brought against the company and it will be allowed to resume operations.

Best of all, it should be able to bounce back with a fantastic (but unintentional) endorsement from the authorities. What can be a stronger certificate of deemed approval than having cleared high-profile investigations by several agencies? Let's wait and see.

Executive editor Errol Oh is still trying to figure out how Genneva Malaysia generates the profits that it shares with its customers. He needs to know more than what's on the company's website: “Experienced and dynamic management team with more than 100 years of combined experience in gold trading, gold mining and marketing.”

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发表于 2012-10-7 09:19 | 显示全部楼层
屋身是24尺乘47尺,约1950方尺,
地形是约38尺乘147,屋前长40尺,屋身长47尺,屋后60尺。
heamq 发表于 2012-10-6 06:04



    很大

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发表于 2012-10-8 02:12 | 显示全部楼层
回复 10# jackylcs86


    對! 擠提發生銀行一定倒

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发表于 2012-10-8 02:14 | 显示全部楼层
回复 13# freeman_自由人


    國行 FREEZE 她們的bank acc. = freeze them capital` XD

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发表于 2012-10-8 02:15 | 显示全部楼层
回复 14# jackylcs86


    換成一錢多借 就可以了

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发表于 2012-10-8 02:18 | 显示全部楼层
回复 21# lawhal83


    是有人著麼認為的阿...因為她們也是這樣對CUST 說的
  
  都做轉接的XD

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发表于 2012-10-8 02:30 | 显示全部楼层
回复 63# 独孤求胜


    換掉。。。就大條了

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